Hagan was employed in the books section of a large thrift store chain, and one day when he was shelving, Archie approached to ask if he was a writer. Having been a fan of poets for many years and dabbled minimally on his own, Archie was both excited to learn of Hagan’s avocation, as he was looking for local talent to appear on his new public access series NOW WHAT? Hagan would become the first guest.